Can something – or someone – be beautiful, charismatic and deeply dangerous at the same time? And why is the world so rarely as simple as “good people” and “bad people”?

With Greta Gerwig bringing The Magician's Nephew to the screen, C.S. Lewis scholar Alister McGrath joins Ruth Jackson to explore the surprisingly grown-up questions hiding inside one of Lewis' children's stories.

From a world literally sung into existence to a beautiful but terrifying villain, they explore why Lewis believed imagination and beauty can reveal things that reason alone cannot. And why beauty should never be confused with goodness.

Plus, why are Lewis' most dangerous characters often his most charismatic? And what can Narnia teach us about our own vulnerability to power, temptation and people who aren't quite what they seem?

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Released on 12 Oct 2026